The order matters
Every seller has seen the "friendly seller" who can shoot the breeze with any contractor about fishing, football, or whatever. Nice guy. Customers like him. And he still loses the account when the competition shows up with a better quote.
Why? Because he only built one layer of bond — and it's the shallow one.
"I prefer to business bond. Second, I'll personally bond. If I know what your favorite sports team is, what your favorite fish to eat is — if I know all this stuff about you personally, it doesn't really help me in the beginning to close deals. I don't learn as much. I don't know how you guys make decisions. I don't know who you work with. I don't get this data."
The order: business bond first, personal bond second. Not because personal doesn't matter — it matters a lot, over time. But because a personal-only bond is paper. A business bond is steel. And you can always wrap steel with paper later. You can't do it the other way around.
Industry terms this page covers
| What you might call it | What I call it |
|---|---|
| "Building rapport" | Business bonding |
| "Getting to know them personally" | Personal bonding |
| "We hit it off" | Usually a weak personal bond with no business layer |
| "Chatting about life" | Fine — later, after you know their business |
What a business bond actually sounds like
Business bonding is questioning about how their business runs, how they make decisions, what they value, and who their people are. Not rapid-fire qualification. Curious, open, extended conversation about the shape of their operation.
"I love it. That's what I call business bonding versus personal bonding. You and I can just connect — 'oh, we have kids, we've owned a business, we play music, your husband plays music.' We could find those things to be connected. But if I actually know your business, it's like, 'oh, come in here, you're my best friend now.' It creates a different environment instead of just 'oh, I love Steve. He's funny.' I love Steve — he knows what's going on in my world. He's really helpful in my business. I'd much rather have that relationship than just personal."
The difference at the end of 12 months:
- Personal-only seller: "I love that guy, he's great to hang out with." → Loses on price when it gets hard.
- Business-bonded seller: "That guy knows my business. He gets how we operate. He's saved me three times. I'm not switching." → Holds through price battles.
The business-bonded seller becomes indispensable. The personal-only seller is replaceable the moment a cheaper option walks in.
The three core business-bond questions
Stevenson's starter kit:
"I go origin question. 'What's the role you play? I know you buy concrete from me, but what other things do you do around here? What's it like being you?' And then my next one is war stories — the good, the bad, and the ugly. 'What's the best job you've ever done? What happened? And then what's the worst job? Oh, way — and then what happened?' So you bring up some history. Those are sort of my three core getting-to-know-them-a-little-bit questions. I might also say, 'who else should I be getting to know in the office here?'"
Three starters:
- Origin. "What's your role here? How'd you end up in this business? What else do you do around here besides buy concrete?" Gets them telling their story.
- War stories. "What's the best job you've ever done? What's the worst?" Gets them talking about what matters to them and what keeps them up at night.
- Cast of characters. "Who else should I be getting to know around here?" Builds your infiltration map.
All three are business questions, but they're not "qualification" questions. They're getting to know you as a businessperson questions. Completely different energy.
The "how do you get customers?" secret weapon
Stevenson's favorite business-bond question:
"One of my favorite questions is: how do you guys get customers? They tell you how they do it — which is exactly how they want you to do it with them. It's a secret weapon."
Watch what that question does:
- They explain their customer-acquisition strategy.
- Hidden in that explanation is what they value in the sales process — because they do to their customers what they'd want done to them.
- Now you have a playbook for exactly how to sell to them.
If they say "we get customers by showing up, being honest, and doing what we say we'll do," — they want you to do the same with them. If they say "we get customers by being the cheapest," — they view price as the deciding factor with you too. If they say "we get customers by knowing our field better than anyone," — they want you to demonstrate mastery.
Ask the question. Listen for the pattern. Sell to them the way they sell to their customers.
Other high-value business-bond questions
For an ongoing rotation:
- "What are the challenges you're seeing in the marketplace right now?"
- "Where do you see the market going over the next year?"
- "What kind of jobs you got coming up?"
- "What's the stuff that's been stressing you out at work lately?"
- "Where do you want this business to be in three years?"
- "What's something you'd change about how this industry works?"
Every one of those keeps you in their world, not your pitch. Every one gives you material for fuzzy file entries you can use forever.
When personal bonding is okay — and when it isn't
Personal bonding isn't bad. It's second.
"My rule is that I personally bond with my customers eventually — to retain them, to keep them, to build the relationship deeper. But that's only after I've already built a very good professional bond with them, a professional business bond. I want to know that we're business-to-business first. And then if we want to, I start talking about 'oh, I play soccer on the weekends, I play guitar, my son, my daughter.' Okay — we could start getting into some hobbies."
The rule:
- Phase 1 — first weeks/months. Almost all business bonding. You're learning their business, their operation, their people. Light personal stuff is fine when they volunteer it, but you're not leading with "what do you do on weekends?"
- Phase 2 — once the business bond is built. Natural personal bonding layers in. Kids, hobbies, vacations, life stuff. This is where the fuzzy file fills up.
- Phase 3 — deep partnership. Both bonds are thick. You know the business cold AND you know the person's life cold. Unkillable.
Sellers who try to run Phase 2 before Phase 1 feel needy and weird. The customer doesn't know why you're asking about their weekend. Earn the personal bond by first building the business one.
The "awkward" exception — mixed-industry bonding
Not every seller is comfortable in every personal-bond conversation. Stevenson names it directly:
"Some women have told me it's a little bit harder for them to do this, and it's a little awkward when they personally bond, because they're working with male contractors and sometimes it gets awkward. I like staying in the business anyway because it gets awkward for me too. The idea is — stay business-to-business first. Then if we want to, we can get into some hobbies."
The business-first rule is especially useful when personal bonding creates friction — whether for gender reasons, cultural reasons, or just personal style. Business bonding is always safe ground. Everyone's a businessperson. Nobody has to be awkward about talking shop.
The conversation pivot — business bond under a personal cover
One advanced move: when a customer tries to personal-bond early, gracefully redirect back to business.
"Most guys want to find out what my favorite hockey team is. Who the hell cares? I don't know. But if you want to talk business with me — since we do business together and we're both in the same industry — let's get into it. They like to do personal bonding all the time. Like 'hey, what's going on bro, what are you doing this weekend?' I'm like, 'nothing with you, I just met you, leave me alone.' But that's just me. Some guys get away with it."
You don't shut them down. You redirect:
- "Ah, the weekend's just weekend stuff. Hey — I wanted to ask you, how do you guys decide who you pour with? What matters most in that decision for you?"
You matched briefly, then pulled back to business bonding. You're not being cold. You're being intentional about the order of bonding.
Homework — the business-bond audit
This week:
- Pick five customers you've been working with for 6+ months. For each, grade your bond: - Business bond depth: Do you know their origin story? Their war stories? Their three biggest challenges right now? Their customer-acquisition strategy? - Personal bond depth: Kids' names? Hobbies? Their vacation last summer?
- Score them. If Business is lower than Personal, you've got an inverted relationship. Work it the right way.
- For the three weakest business-bond customers, book a meeting this month and run the three core questions (origin, war stories, cast of characters). Don't talk about concrete at all.
- Log everything in their fuzzy file.
Where to go next
- Information Pull vs. Push — the posture that business-bonding operates inside
- 3 Buckets of Questions — bucket 2 is the bonding bucket
- Fuzzy File — where business-bond and personal-bond data gets stored
- Question-Asking Reflex — the mechanic that drives bonding conversations forward
- Infiltrate Strategy — business bonding expands your cast of characters naturally
Source: drawn from 10 canonical moments across the live-coaching corpus — including the "business bond first, personal second" rule, the origin/war-stories/cast-of-characters starter-kit, the "how do you get customers" secret-weapon question, the "who the hell cares about your hockey team" posture check, and the gender/awkwardness caveat. Voice preserved.